Made in germany by edc
Made in germany by edc
where does MADE IN GERMANY BY EDC belong?
_jules over 12 years ago
rassel over 12 years ago
SickMF over 12 years ago
I add it
— to the BAOI fields only as part of a complete and coherent matrix quote, if that «Made»-note is found at and included in the CD matrix prints
— else to the notes section, if that «Made»-note is to be quoted solely, or anyway if it’s found at the mould area.
Just by itself it does not fit in a BAOI field since it’s not codified data, but as well
rassel
I’m not aware of any rules against adding this to the BAOI or the notes or even both.
cvalda44 over 12 years ago
jweijde over 12 years ago
cvalda44 over 12 years ago
^ Possibly. But they will have problems with description field.
Btw, for represses with the same artwork, differences in Mould data usually directly connected with matrix variations. When listing matrix variations in BAOI it is better to list corresponding mould data right under them.
But i think it would be better for all if we will not have strict rules for Mould data
SickMF over 12 years ago
cvalda44
if mould information is divided between two sections it is just confusing imho
Afaics the mould area seldomly contains more than a SID Code and possibly a corresponding plant + location denotation, if at all. Up to now these have always been quoted separately, either in two BAOI fields or one such field + note section. I don’t see how the latter creates more «confusion» than the former. (Yet I haven’t seen a complete and coherent mould quote, nor need for it. It’s a possibility though.)
It doesn’t have the variety and amount of reciprocal references like the matrix area.
If quoted solely putting the written out plant/company/location info in the Notes Section is formally more clean. No elsewise unclear relations are broken. Normal grammar can be used. (We even filter artists out of quoted liner notes. How would that exact mould area print be more heavy with meaning for quoting.)
Its codified and standardly related equivalent is actually the Mould SID Code, which is well placed in a BAOI field.
But since there are no strict rules for it so far, how does it rise any problem for one’s own method after all?
cvalda44 over 12 years ago
«MADE IN GERMANY BY EDC» vs. «Made in Germany by EDC»
VoittoAnkka about 1 year ago
Trying to merge
07314 534 633-2 05 * 50994399
with a sub that already has
07314 534 633-2 07 ✴ 50994399
07314 534 633-2 06 ✴ 50994399
However, penediktus says that uppercase/lowercase in mould text makes a difference and instead of merging these should be kept separate and some variants should be moved around ie. variants with «MADE IN GERMANY BY EDC» to one sub and «Made in Germany by EDC» to another. This is based at least partially on a text at EDC, Germany that gives an appropriate year for the case change. That text has recently been challenged at https://www.discogs.com/forum/thread/877939
Anyway, I do not really care what the outcome is, merge or split, but I think we should clear this thing. Basically the question is:
Do mould texts «MADE IN GERMANY BY EDC» and «Made in Germany by EDC» automatically mean different subs?
penediktus about 1 year ago
Hello! i did not get that forum tread 877939 open?
now it happened this way (like above) but personally i would not dare to add «MADE IN GERMANY» version to sub were is «Made in Germany».. other way it isin’t even possible? if we take EDC page as guideline. and what about those 2 examples more? they all are pressed by EDC.
if first press has «Made in Germany», do we count «MADE IN GERMANY» as first press too even it may be pressed years after first one?
VoittoAnkka about 1 year ago
penediktus
Hello! i did not get that forum tread 877939 open?
Sorry, the period at the end of the line was accidentally part of the link. I removed that, now it should work.
devotionalie about 1 year ago
The general question is, if the difference «Made in Germany» vs. «MADE IN GERMANY» is significant enough to keep them separated, but I think it’s fine to combine them, since the manufacturer is the same. More opinions on this would be appreciated.
where does MADE IN GERMANY BY EDC belong?
_jules over 12 years ago
rassel over 12 years ago
SickMF over 12 years ago
I add it
— to the BAOI fields only as part of a complete and coherent matrix quote, if that «Made»-note is found at and included in the CD matrix prints
— else to the notes section, if that «Made»-note is to be quoted solely, or anyway if it’s found at the mould area.
Just by itself it does not fit in a BAOI field since it’s not codified data, but as well
rassel
I’m not aware of any rules against adding this to the BAOI or the notes or even both.
cvalda44 over 12 years ago
jweijde over 12 years ago
cvalda44 over 12 years ago
^ Possibly. But they will have problems with description field.
Btw, for represses with the same artwork, differences in Mould data usually directly connected with matrix variations. When listing matrix variations in BAOI it is better to list corresponding mould data right under them.
But i think it would be better for all if we will not have strict rules for Mould data
SickMF over 12 years ago
cvalda44
if mould information is divided between two sections it is just confusing imho
Afaics the mould area seldomly contains more than a SID Code and possibly a corresponding plant + location denotation, if at all. Up to now these have always been quoted separately, either in two BAOI fields or one such field + note section. I don’t see how the latter creates more «confusion» than the former. (Yet I haven’t seen a complete and coherent mould quote, nor need for it. It’s a possibility though.)
It doesn’t have the variety and amount of reciprocal references like the matrix area.
If quoted solely putting the written out plant/company/location info in the Notes Section is formally more clean. No elsewise unclear relations are broken. Normal grammar can be used. (We even filter artists out of quoted liner notes. How would that exact mould area print be more heavy with meaning for quoting.)
Its codified and standardly related equivalent is actually the Mould SID Code, which is well placed in a BAOI field.
But since there are no strict rules for it so far, how does it rise any problem for one’s own method after all?
cvalda44 over 12 years ago
EDC, Germany
Entertainment Distribution Company GmbH was a German manufacturer of CD, DVD, Blu-ray and vinyl records established in May 2005 following the acquisition of the manufacturing and distribution facilities of the Universal Music Group. The predecessor for this plant was Universal M & L, Germany. EDC was the largest, fully integrated optical disc manufacturing and distribution site in Europe and commenced pressing vinyl records in late 2015. Seven Toolex Alpha presses had been installed, with a capacity of 15 million records per year. The company became insolvent and its assets were to be auctioned in May and June 2017.
Please enter all pressings here that show «Made in Germany by EDC» (on releases since approx. 2009 in capital letters) and additional letters ranging from A to ZZ on the opposite side of the sentence in the inner CD ring. Also be aware that since sometime in the 2010s, the «MADE IN GERMANY BY EDC» text may no longer be present, but all other matrix elements including the A-ZZ letter can still be used to identify this manufacturer.
Please be aware that the EDC factory produced CD and CDr media (often for brokers who are sometimes credited in the mirror band or clamping ring) but used their usual CD matrix scheme and SID code pairings.
When entering EDC, Germany in the LCCN section of a release page, add the sequential number «5xxxxxxxx», which comes after the «[°]» element in the matrix, as the LCCN number.
«MADE IN GERMANY BY EDC» vs. «Made in Germany by EDC»
VoittoAnkka about 1 year ago
Trying to merge
07314 534 633-2 05 * 50994399
with a sub that already has
07314 534 633-2 07 ✴ 50994399
07314 534 633-2 06 ✴ 50994399
However, penediktus says that uppercase/lowercase in mould text makes a difference and instead of merging these should be kept separate and some variants should be moved around ie. variants with «MADE IN GERMANY BY EDC» to one sub and «Made in Germany by EDC» to another. This is based at least partially on a text at EDC, Germany that gives an appropriate year for the case change. That text has recently been challenged at https://www.discogs.com/forum/thread/877939
Anyway, I do not really care what the outcome is, merge or split, but I think we should clear this thing. Basically the question is:
Do mould texts «MADE IN GERMANY BY EDC» and «Made in Germany by EDC» automatically mean different subs?
penediktus about 1 year ago
Hello! i did not get that forum tread 877939 open?
now it happened this way (like above) but personally i would not dare to add «MADE IN GERMANY» version to sub were is «Made in Germany».. other way it isin’t even possible? if we take EDC page as guideline. and what about those 2 examples more? they all are pressed by EDC.
if first press has «Made in Germany», do we count «MADE IN GERMANY» as first press too even it may be pressed years after first one?
VoittoAnkka about 1 year ago
penediktus
Hello! i did not get that forum tread 877939 open?
Sorry, the period at the end of the line was accidentally part of the link. I removed that, now it should work.
devotionalie about 1 year ago
The general question is, if the difference «Made in Germany» vs. «MADE IN GERMANY» is significant enough to keep them separated, but I think it’s fine to combine them, since the manufacturer is the same. More opinions on this would be appreciated.